Order for each pair of rounds is the same as Rounds 1 and 2.

Daryl	Lonnie	DougS	Steve	Eric
prefer #15	N	prefer #15	prefer #15

The TGML rule indicates that a person must indicate before the season starts on whether they will be moving to a new ballpark. The move takes place the following year, and the owner will receive rookies for the new ballpark one year after he has moved.

The CBML rule indicates that a person must announce a move at the Annual Rules Meeting. At that time, he has officially moved. He will get rookies for that ballpark one year after he moved.

CBML - player must have 100 ABs or 30 IP to be draftable

TGML - players under 100 ABs or 30 IPs are draftable, but can't be used during the season

TGML - Draft in reverse order of final standings (best to worst)

CBML - For the first round of the draft-only, a lottery will be used to 
       determine the order of non-playoff teams.  The numbers will be 
       allocated as:

          D20 Roll        Final Standing
          --------        --------------
             1              7th place
             2              8th place
            3-4             9th place
            5-6            10th place
            7-9            11th place
           10-12           12th place
	   13-16           13th place
	   17-20           14th place

             Roll the D20 and whatever number comes up, that place finisher 
             gets the next pick.  The die roll range of that place will be 
             added to the die roll range of the current worst place team 
             still competing for a pick.
  
             For example:

                The first die roll is a 14.  The 13th place team would 
                get the first pick in the draft.  Subsequent rolls of 
                13-16 and 17-20 would give the 14th place finisher the 
                next pick.  The next die roll is an 18.  The 14th place 
                team would get the second pick.  Subsequent rolls of 
                10-20 would give the 12th place team the next pick, etc.

             After eight rolls, the eight draft picks will be determined.
             The rolling of the D20 will take place by the World Series 
             participants before the series is played. (CBML way)

TGML - Teams draft in order of regular season standings after non-playoff teams draft (worst to best)

CBML - Teams draft in order of how they finish in the playoffs after non-playoff teams draft (worst to best)

TGML - player sent down must normally remain up/down for 3 full series.

CBML - player sent down must normally remain up/down for 2 full series.

TGML - When rolling for weather, if weather is bad, roll for three 6-sided die, and refer to chart to determine if game is rained out. If rainout occurs, a doubleheader is played on the next day. The last game of a series cannot be rained out.

CBML - No rainouts.

TGML - Not used.

CBML - Use the Strat Rule. Rule does not apply for some ballparks.

TGML - A pitcher that is "starred" shall be injured for a maximum of two days each injury. A pitcher will miss the number of days for the injury plus the rest days required.

CBML - A pitcher that is "starred" shall be injured for a maximum of four days each injury. A pitcher will miss the number of days for the injury plus the rest days required.

TGML - Using the squeeze defense reduces the bunting rating of a batter by two. A runner must be on thirdbase to use it. If a dot is rolled on the pitcher's card, the result is a single**. If the bases are loaded and this is used, the bunting rating is reduced by three.

CBML does not use this.

TGML - Legal if no sub available. Player is 5 Emax. All gb(a,b, or c) become gb(x).

CBML - There are 4 distinct positions: infielder, outfielder, catcher and pitcher. The position being replaced should be replaced with a player of a similar position. The player will be 5 Emax, an arm of +5, and T1-20 and PB 1-15 for a catcher.

TGML has no limits.

CBML - Starters are also limited to xx starts in a regular season. The CBML way uses 28 for a 96 game season, merged league should be 31 for a 108 game season.

TGML - Any reliever can enter a game at any time after the starter has gone 4 innings or allowed 2 or more runs.

CBML - Any reliever with a 1 dot endurance rating and a closer rating of 4, 5, or 6 cannot enter a game before the 6th inning. This is to make closers be used more realistically.

TGML - A relief pitcher is assumed to be down after an inning in which he warms and doesn't appear.

CBML - A relief pitcher is assumed to be still warming after an inning in which he warms and doesn't appear.

TGML - Each team must report its playoff roster to the league before playing any games in September. If a team does not announce its playoff roster before playing in the TGML month of September, its playoff roster is its major league roster during its last game played in the TGML month of August.

CBML - Each owner will present a playoff roster to the DIC by August 1st.

TGML - Disabled List (DL). If a player gets injured, the manager must determine on whether or not to put the player on the 10-day DL. If the DL is used, then a move can be made at any time during the injury, i.e. if you decide to put the player on the DL a couple of days after his injury (and he is still injured), you can send him down retroactive to when he was injured. The bottom line is that there is no free move for an injury.

CBML - No DL. Any injury over 1 day is a free move. When the injury is over, the player can be brought back up immediately as a free move.

Introduce some kind of penalty/warning for schedule problems. There is currently discussion going on with this, so there really isn't anything concrete to vote on yet.

CBML - If a pitcher begins his warmup, and doesn't have the opportunity to enter the game warm before the inning ends, he can stay up for free and will be considered warm for the next inning. If the manager decides to not use the free time up for the next inning, it is considered a time up.

Example: If a 2 dot reliever begins to warmup with 2 outs in the 6th inning, and the next batter gets out, the pitcher never got warm. The warmup counts as one time, but he can stay up for free for the next inning, because he was never warm enough to enter the game unfatigued. But if the manager sits the reliever, it still counts as one time up.

TGML - If a pitcher begins his warmup, and doesn't have the opportunity to enter the game warm before the inning ends, it is considered a warm, and he if he stays warming up for the next inning, that counts as a second time warming up.

CBML - A manager can announce that a reliever is warming, and bring him into a game immediately (obviously fatigued).

TGML - A manager can announce that a reliever is warming, but cannot bring him into a game until at least one batter has batted.

Both leagues count the in-between half inning as equivalent to one batter hitting.

CBML - A reliever is fatigued when he gives up 3 hits/unintentional walks in the inning of his endurance rating, or any subsequent full inning of work. Likewise, 4 hits/unintentional walks in two consecutive innings.

TGML - A reliever is fatigued when he gives up 3 hits/unintentional walks in any 3-out period beginning in the inning of his endurance rating. Same for 4 hits/unintentional walks in any two consecutive innings.

The TGML rule was verified as the correct interpretation of the Strat Rule by the SOM game company recently.

CBML - The following chart is used in additional to other reliever rules:

    Innings Pitched          Days Fatigued
    ---------------          -------------
       3.0 - 3.2                   1
       4.0 - 5.2                   2
       6.0 -                       3

TGML - If a reliever pitches a cumulative 6 innings or more in a 2-day period, he is considered fatigued for the next 2 days. If a reliever pitches a cumulative 7 innings or more in a 2-day period, he is considered fatigued for the next 3 days. The reliever must rest the 2 or 3 days consecutively to be fully rested. If the reliever pitches when fatigued, the 2 or 3 days of fatigueness begins all over again.

CBML - After any appearance, a relief pitcher becomes fully rested only after making no pitching appearances in any games played during the prescribed number of consecutive rest days. For each pitching appearance made during the rest period, the rest period is extended by a day. For example, a reliever pitched 4 innings in one game. By CBML rule, the rest period is 2 days. If the reliever appears the next day, the pitcher is tired and now has to rest 3 days. If the reliever rested the first day, but pitched in the second day, he must rest one day to take care of the original rest day, plus an additional day because he came into the game before he was completely rested.

TGML - Besides the rule with pitching 6 or 7 innings in a 2 or 3 day period, I don't believe that there is any rule regarding fatigueness for a reliever who pitches when rest is needed.

CBML - Only one player at the beginning of a series may be brought up to the majors. This does not include injury replacements (injury & recovery). The player must remain in the minors for two series, unless a similar player gets injured during these two series. A similar player is defined as a pitcher for a pitcher, or a hitter for a hitter.

TGML - unlimited between series with 24 up/down move pairs allowed in a year.

CBML - If the Corners are In, and the result is a gbA, gbB, or gbC to the firstbaseman or thirdbaseman, if there is no man on thirdbase, refer to the Infield Back chart to determine the results. If there is a man on thirdbase, refer to the Infield In chart to get the result. If the Corners are In, and an X-check to the firstbaseman or thirdbaseman is rolled, refer to the Infield In section of the Fielding Chart to get the result.

This rule gives a reason to bring the corners in other than trying to stop a bunt.

TGML - With the corners in, always refer to the Infield Back chart on a result of gbA, gbB, gbC even if hit to 1B or 3B. Same for any X check to any infielder.

CBML - 5 game series: .075 * (AB or IP). 7 game series: .1 * (AB or IP). In addition, If the hitter is over the maximum AB, the hitter would automatically lineout to the 2nd baseman or shortstop. If a pitcher uses up his allotted IP, he will be considered tired and every test of a fielder will be a single**.

TGML - All players appearing in a 7-game post-season series are limited to .07 times the number of at-bats printed on their cards (rounding to the nearest whole at-bat); players appearing in a 5-game post-season series are similarly limited to .05 their at-bats.

Lonnie suggested using the TGML rule for batters, but the CBML rule for pitchers.

CBML - Brackets are set before playoffs start. Teams are not reseeded.

TGML - Teams are reseeded after each round. Top seed will always face the lowest seeded remaining team.

Daryl	Lonnie	DougS	Steve	Eric
CBML	TGML	Leaning towards TGML	TGML	CBML

Daryl	Lonnie	DougS	Steve	Eric
TGML	TGML	TGML	TGML	TGML

Daryl	Lonnie	DougS	Steve	Eric
Y	Y	Y	Y	Y

TGML - There is 1 day game per series (with a couple of exceptions). The exceptions are for Chicago(NL) and Florida. In Chicago(NL), the first game is a night game, and games 2 and 3 are day games. In Florida, all games played in June, July, and August are night games.

CBML - A prorated number of day games is determined based on real life number of day games for all home parks. Then this number is distributed among all of the home games for that park. The DIC determines how many day games are in each series before the season starts. So, series will have anywhere from 0 to 3 day games.

TGML - No TGML September games can be played before all April through August games are played.

CBML - It is encouraged, but not required, to play all Spring and Summer games before Fall games. We had some difficulties with scheduling that created this rule.

TGML - The injury chart is prorated to reflect the length of a TGML season. I'm not sure if it was prorated for a 108 game season, or for other lengths (we've had different length seasons in the TGML over the years).

CBML - The injury chart is prorated based on a 96 game schedule.

The TGML has the following clarification:

• When computing the safe chance for a runner on a DECIDE result from the X-chart, use the fielder's adjusted range rating (per the DECIDE rule description).

This rule has never been an issue in the CBML.

Should this rule be used in the new league?

The TGML has the following clarification:

• Make the adjustment for throws from RF and LF to 3B on all plays resulting from an F2 result on the X-chart.

This rule has never been an issue in the CBML. I believe that the CBML has used this rule, but does not have it specifically listed in the local rules.

Should this rule be used in the new league?

The TGML allows the use of emergency players, i.e. when a team doesn't have enough ABs or IPs at a position, an emergency player can be 'brought up' from the minors. The emergency players are determined at the beginning of the season.

Do we want this rule in the new league?

The TGML allows starting pitchers to be relievers in extra innings when all remaining relievers are fatigued, or if there was an injury to a pitcher in the game and all remaining relievers are fatigued.

Do we want this rule in the new league?

Daryl	Lonnie	DougS	Steve	Eric
Y	Y	Y	Y	Y

TGML - If a 1-game, tie-breaking playoff is played to determine who makes the playoffs, playoff rosters shall be used. In any such game, there are no limits on at-bats or innings allowed; players out of atbats or innings are eligible for normal use.

CBML - In tiebreaker games to determine the playoffs, playoff rosters are used. The ABs and IPs are not limitless. If it takes one game to determine the tiebreaker winner(s), then the season is considered a 97-game season, and ABs and IPs for each player is based on a 97-game season, etc.

The TGML has the following rule:

• Active players traded from one team to another may not return to their original team in any subsequent trade between those two teams until after the completion of the next full TGML regular season. Players designated as prospects for the current season are exempt from this restriction.

Obviously, we don't have 'prospects' listed for the new league, so the last sentence of the rule doesn't apply.

The CBML has no such rule.

Do we want this rule?

The TGML has the following rule:

• All teams must begin the regular season with a minimum of 900 pro-rated innings, 5 pitchers rated as starters, and 600 MLB plate appearances (as printed on the player cards) per position (including designated hitter). When each team submits its list of inactive ("prospect") players to the league, it must also show that it meets the requirements of rule III.S with a list of players, pitchers, and AB/IP by position.

The CBML has no such requirement.

Do we want this rule?

TGML - a starter only used as a reliever is a relief(1)/(N).

CBML - a starter only used as a reliever is a relief(2)/(N). Keep in mind that a starter cannot relieve in the CBML during the regular season, so this rule only applies in the postseason.

TGML - Subject to sanctions by committee, but game results and stats stand.

CBML - Team that overused the player forfeits but stats remain.

TGML - Can be kept one time uncarded for free, and then costs a roster spot to keep in subsequent uncarded years.

CBML - Can be kept for 5 years uncarded and then becomes a free agent.

CBML - If more than 25 players are kept, the player will forfeit his top round pick for each player over 25. In order to keep more than 25, the player must have the draft pick(s) to forfeit.

To clarify the CBML rule, if a team wants to keep 26 players, they must have a first round pick to forfeit.

TGML - Not allowed.

CBML - Allows full roster to be active in the Fall (September) schedule even if the team has more than 35 players due to trades.

TGML - On the TGML September 1, the TGML major league roster limit is raised to 30 for the duration of the regular season. Teams with more than 30 active players on their overall rosters are still subject to the new limit.

TGML - Allows only two players acquired after the MLB All-Star Game to be kept on any one team's playoff roster. (Note that this rule still applies if a playoff injury occurs. Thus injured players may not be replaced by players acquired after the MLB All-Star Game if they cause the team to exceed the 2-player limit.)

CBML - Allows any player on their roster at the time rosters are due to be on the postseason roster.

TGML - All TGML postseason games are played at night.

CBML - In first round 5-game series, games 4 & 5 are day games. In second round 7-game series, games 4 & 5 are day games. In World Series, games 1, 2, 6 & 7 are day games.

In the TGML, owners are free to name their teams whatever they wish, but combinations of one home city with the (real) nickname of another city's team are not allowed. For example, no TGML team may be named the Colorado Mariners.

The CBML has no such clarification.

Is this rule needed/wanted?

In the TGML, the higher seed hosts games 1 and 2, the lower seed hosts games 3 and 4, and the higher seed hosts game 5 in a best of 5 series. There is a day off after game 2.

The CBML has the lower seed hosting games 1 and 2, and the higher seed hosting games 3, 4 and 5.

TGML - After an unsuccessful attempt to get the lead, the batter currently at the plate may not be removed for a pinch hitter.

CBML - An offensive manager cannot Pinch Hit after a play has been put on (i.e., going for the lead, stealing, Sac, Hit & Run, WP, PB, or Balk).

If I remember this correctly, the CBML doesn't allow a change in the middle of an atbat. That is, if you try to sac, and get a '1AND2' result, you can't pinch hit. If you try to bunt, and get a '1AND2' result, you can't pinch hit. If you have a WP, PB or Balk attempt, and the WP, PB or Balk does or does not occur, you can't pinch hit.

What we might want to do is merge the two rules. For example, don't allow a pinch hitter unless the baserunner(s) situation has changed.

CBML - A Manager must indicate that he is holding a runner no matter what base the runners occupy.

TGML - The "default" for runners on first (i.e., what occurs if the defensive manager does not inform the offensive manager otherwise) is to hold all "starred" (*) runners. The default for all non-starred runners on first and all runners on second is not to hold.

TGML - Baserunners with a steal rating may always attempt to steal second base on their second steal number. This is true regardless of whether the runner has failed to get the good lead; a wild pitch, balk, or passed ball check has been made; or any other game situation has occurred.

CBML - If you try for a lead off firstbase, and don't get a good lead, you can always steal second using the second steal number during that inning (while the situation doesn't change). The only exception to this is if you try for a lead, and roll a 1 or 2 on the 20-sider, and a balk or pickoff does not occur, you can steal second using the second steal number after the current batter.

The CBML has the following rule:

• Only players that attempted to steal during the year can try to steal.

I don't recall the reasoning for this rule. CBMLers?

Do we need this rule?

The CBML has the following rule:

• You may only pinch run, if the current baserunner is eligible to try to get a lead, or if the baserunner is a dash (-/-) stealer.

This rule was added because a Manager once pinch run for a baserunner after he attempted to get a lead, and failed.

Do we need this rule?

In the TGML, a batter's H&R rating is improved when the infield is playing in, regardless of whether the result in on the "Super Advanced Hit and Run Chart" or the "Super Advanced Pitching Results H&R Adjustments."

This was created because the SOM rules didn't clarify it specifically. It was more of a clarification of the SOM rules that the league made.

Do we need this rule?

TGML - A batter may pitch prior to the 7th inning only if:

• the batter is also the starting pitcher of that game, or
• all other relief pitchers on the team are fatigued or injured.

CBML - I do not believe that the CBML has any such rule.

The TGML has the following rule:

• Players may be traded from one team to another in-between games of an ongoing series between the 2 teams, but not in the middle of ongoing games between the 2 teams.

Do we want this rule?

Two teams in the TGML indicated at the start of the 2002 season that they would be moving to new ballparks for the 2003 season. A question has come up as to what home ballparks should these two teams be allowed to select from. By TGML rule, in order to move to a new ballpark, you must give one year's notice.